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DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
emilyandmatt4eva
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 10:53 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 10:53 PM
DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Hi guys, my FH and I are having doubts and have decided to postpone our wedding until we solve our issues.In the meantime, I have already paid quite a bit of money to our caterers, to hold the date for us, now how do we get our money back.
they have over 20grand. Does anyone have any ideas, I am so stressed out, I dont want to lose that much money.
we gave them a 6months notice, we were originally booked for july. can anyone offer any advice?? any lawyers our here??
akaMrsT
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 10:58 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 10:58 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Is your hall in Suffolk County
emilyandmatt4eva
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:02 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:02 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
yes it is. does anyone have any experience or any story that can help me.
kam0813
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:06 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:06 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
there's a law that states that if you give the hall more than six months notice they are required to give you your money back minus $100 dollars..but that's only for hall's in suffolk county
emilyandmatt4eva
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:09 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:09 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Are you sure? Where can I look this up? thank You so much, you are a life saver.
kam0813
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:13 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:13 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Posted by emilyandmatt4eva
Are you sure? Where can I look this up? thank You so much, you are a life saver.
a lot of brides have had this problem..let me see if i can find one of those posts that has the law in it..
akaMrsT
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:15 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:15 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Posted by emilyandmatt4eva
yes it is. does anyone have any experience or any story that can help me.
Act NOW!!!! You need to cancel (with a certified letter by Sunday --- or even a hand delivered letter at this point)
Cancellations for Suffolk County
If you read the subdivisions together, 237-3 (3) and 237-4 'prompt refunds', because rebooking is presumed if the date is more than 6 months out, the hall must return the deposits within 30 days of being notified of the cancellation.
Because rebooking is presumed you DO NOT have to wait 30 days after they rebook.
This is the LAW for Suffolk County halls!!!!
Pay particular attention to 237-3 (3) - if it's more than 6 months out rebooking is presumed.
Chapter 237, CATERERS
GENERAL REFERENCES
§ 237-1. Legislative findings and intent.
A.The Legislature finds that the Suffolk County Department of Consumer Affairs has received numerous complaints from consumers about catering contracts. These contracts are very often executed long in advance of affairs, at the urging of caterers, to avoid scheduling disappointments.
B.The Legislature further finds that, upon the execution of such a contract, a consumer is required to make an initial payment and may be required to make periodic payments thereafter.
C.The Legislature further finds that those who cancel catering contracts, in most instances, do so for legitimate reasons. The major area of consumer complaints relates to these cancellations and the claims of patrons for restitution of these partial payments and, on the other hand, the caterers' claims to damages due to these cancellations.
D.The Legislature further finds that the common no return of deposit clause too often results in an unconscionable and unjust situation because the caterer often rebooks the room for the contracted date at a price more or less than the original contract price but which has no bearing on the no return of deposit clause.
E.The Legislature further finds that a caterer's delegation of its performance of the contract to another caterer without the consumer's consent is unconscionable.
F.The Legislature intends to cure these inequities by establishing criteria and procedures for cancellation of catering contracts and for the delegating of these contracts.
§ 237-2. Definitions.
As used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:
CATERER -- Any person or business engaged in serving food or beverages for private functions in Suffolk County.
§ 237-3. Cancellations and cancellation fees.
A. A cancellation occurs:
(1)When the consumer mails to the caterer notice of his or her intent to cancel; or
(2)When the caterer has actual notice of the consumer's intent to cancel.
B. With regard to cancellation fees:
(1)If a consumer cancels a catering contract and the caterer is able to rebook the date, the caterer's cancellation fee may not exceed 5% of the total contract price or $100, whichever is less, plus actual expenses reasonably incurred.
(2)If a consumer cancels a catering contract and the caterer is unable to rebook the date, the caterer's cancellation fee may not exceed the difference between the total contract price and the cost of performance, plus actual expenses reasonably incurred. The caterer must be able to show diligent efforts to rebook and most fairly calculate the cost of performance.
(3)It will be presumed that a caterer who receives notice of cancellation six months or more before the scheduled date of the function will be able to rebook.
§ 237-4. Prompt refunds.
As soon as reasonably practicable after cancellation and in no event later than 30 days after rebooking, the caterer must return to the consumer any sum received which exceeds the caterer's permissible cancellation fee.
§ 237-5. Contract forms.
Contract forms used by a caterer must conspicuously disclose the caterer's cancellation fee. This does not apply to contract forms ordered to be printed or set in type before the effective date of this chapter, but such forms may not be used for more than six months after this chapter takes effect.
§ 237-6. Delegation of performance to another caterer.
A caterer may not delegate performance of any contract to another caterer without the consumer's consent. This consent may be obtained only after the caterer advised the consumer of its inability to perform under the contract.
§ 237-7. Penalties for offenses.
The Commissioner of the Department of Consumer Affairs of Suffolk County or his designated representative shall have the power to impose upon any caterer who shall violate any of the provisions of this chapter and/or any regulations duly promulgated with respect thereto a civil penalty of not less than $50 nor more than $500 for each such violation.
§ 237-8. Enforcement.
A.This chapter shall be enforced by the Department of Consumer Affairs of Suffolk County.
B.The Commissioner of the Department of Consumer Affairs of Suffolk County may promulgate regulations consistent with and in furtherance of the provisions of this chapter.
The link if you want to read this on your own
Chapter 237
Post re: Suffolk County law re: caterers
Write a letter officially cancelling the date and be sure to cite this law, specifically 237-3 (3) and 237-4 noting that because her date is well over 6 months out, rebooking is presumed and therefore she expects to receive a full refund (minus $100) within 30 days. If she does not get a check call a lawyer. There are probably firms that do this type of thing all the time.
emilyandmatt4eva
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:26 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:26 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
THIS IS PERFECT..Thank You so much...
akaMrsT
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:29 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:29 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Posted by emilyandmatt4eva
THIS IS PERFECT..Thank You so much...
ZuzusPetals
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:33 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:33 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
good luck! let us know how it turns out - good luck with your personal relations as well!
emilyandmatt4eva
Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:38 PM+

Posted: Jan 06, 2006 11:38 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Thanks, You are all very sweet:)
can't wait
Posted: Jan 07, 2006 12:25 AM+

Posted: Jan 07, 2006 12:25 AM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
emily,I think you should post your date on this site, everyone is so helpful. Maybe someone will be interested in it and if it gets rebooked, you might get your money faster. Try it, you have nothing else to lose. I will also tell people I know that a spot is available at HTH.
Don't Worry.
Nina
Posted: Jan 07, 2006 12:45 AM+

Posted: Jan 07, 2006 12:45 AM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Good Luck
emilyandmatt4eva
Posted: Jan 07, 2006 11:27 AM+

Posted: Jan 07, 2006 11:27 AM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
thanks guys..and please let people know that the venue I booked is available, go to huntington town house and see if you want my halls for a saturday this summer...
BKtoLI
Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:12 PM+

Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:12 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
bumping for craigshunny
Jackie&Justin
Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:18 PM+

Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:18 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Does anyone know if you can get your deposit back from photographers? I don't like mine anymore!
D's Girl
Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:21 PM+

Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:21 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
I heard the same thing and almost all the halls I went to had that policy.I would not stress yet, breath and give them a call.
D's Girl
Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:21 PM+

Posted: Feb 03, 2006 12:21 PM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
Keep your chin up, it will all work out
BKtoLI
Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:04 AM+

Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:04 AM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
bumping for Turbogirl
jenneva
Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:37 AM+

Posted: Feb 20, 2006 12:37 AM
Re: DESPERATE..how to get deposit back??
There was an incident like this where a girl had to cancell her wedding and she needed her deposit back but the hall refused (Majestic gardens). She went on television (i forgot the channel) and asked for help from the one news channel. They did a segment on this and b/c of the suffolk law Majestic Gardens had to give her check back.Good Luck!!!!
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