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june262004 Posted: Nov 03, 2004 01:44 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry

I don't think that was the question
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AnnBrunoXO Posted: Nov 03, 2004 01:47 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


I don't think that was the question


EXACTLY!
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by CubanBride

I can give you my reasons for not voting for Kerry.

BTW-It's not possible to have a complete separation between church and state. Look at our money. Lookat our declaration of independence. Almost all of our governing documents mention God.

#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

#3 - Although I may not agree with Bush on everytinhg, I like that he stands for what he beleives in and fights for it tooth and nail. Kerry, well, he doesn't try hard enough and isn't good at convincing me he really cares.

#4 - Kerry had no plan for anything. He just kept saying what he would do, but not how.

I found I couldn't trust Kerry to do anything. I looked at him and he just couldn't convince me.



That is great!!!The question posed here however was why those of us that voted for Kerry did so.
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Sassyz75 Posted: Nov 03, 2004 01:49 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by CubanBride


#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

.





That makes me sad.
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CubanBride Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:06 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by heidla


Posted by CubanBride

I can give you my reasons for not voting for Kerry.

BTW-It's not possible to have a complete separation between church and state. Look at our money. Lookat our declaration of independence. Almost all of our governing documents mention God.

#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

#3 - Although I may not agree with Bush on everytinhg, I like that he stands for what he beleives in and fights for it tooth and nail. Kerry, well, he doesn't try hard enough and isn't good at convincing me he really cares.

#4 - Kerry had no plan for anything. He just kept saying what he would do, but not how.

I found I couldn't trust Kerry to do anything. I looked at him and he just couldn't convince me.



That is great!!!The question posed here however was why those of us that voted for Kerry did so.




True.. hmmm, let me add this then. If I had voted for Kerry, these reasons would be why:

1. Kerry doesn't want to ban gay marraige.

2. He seems to be for health care reform without privatizing it.

3. He is for the environment.

4. He is for gun control.



How's that? Is that fair?
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heidla Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:19 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by CubanBride


Posted by heidla


Posted by CubanBride

I can give you my reasons for not voting for Kerry.

BTW-It's not possible to have a complete separation between church and state. Look at our money. Lookat our declaration of independence. Almost all of our governing documents mention God.

#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

#3 - Although I may not agree with Bush on everytinhg, I like that he stands for what he beleives in and fights for it tooth and nail. Kerry, well, he doesn't try hard enough and isn't good at convincing me he really cares.

#4 - Kerry had no plan for anything. He just kept saying what he would do, but not how.

I found I couldn't trust Kerry to do anything. I looked at him and he just couldn't convince me.



That is great!!!The question posed here however was why those of us that voted for Kerry did so.




True.. hmmm, let me add this then. If I had voted for Kerry, these reasons would be why:

1. Kerry doesn't want to ban gay marraige.

2. He seems to be for health care reform without privatizing it.

3. He is for the environment.

4. He is for gun control.



How's that? Is that fair?




Yep!!!
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CubanBride Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:22 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by heidla

How's that? Is that fair?



Yep!!!


There is good to Kerry. Just because I didn't vote for him doesn't mean I don't think he is a good man.
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TracyInQueens Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:24 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry

I wasn't crazy for Kerry (lol) but there were a few issues I has with Bush. Namely:

1. A man should never legislate what a woman can do with her body.

2. No Child Left Behind has been a disaster for inner city schools, including the one I work in (primarily due to the fact that it's not being funded as it's supposed to be. Plus, class size has been unchanged, and anyone who teaches or is familiar with ed research knows that this is a huge factor in success. We have two classes with 40 kids in each.)

3. I am suspicious of Bush's real reasons for going into Iraq. I feel that it was so his friends would profit and I feel like whenever I hear inklings of this in the media, it does not get the attention it should. He's looking out for his friends, first and foremost.
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cocoa Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:26 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by TracyInQueens


2. No Child Left Behind has been a disaster for inner city schools, including the one I work in (primarily due to the fact that it's not being funded as it's supposed to be. Plus, class size has been unchanged, and anyone who teaches or is familiar with ed research knows that this is a huge factor in success. We have two classes with 40 kids in each.)




Ha! I agree! I'm in a GOOD school and I have 31 kids, and there are at least 3-4 classes with 34kids in them! 34 kids with 1 teacher!!!
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Vicky1706 Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:28 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by Sassyz75


Posted by CubanBride


#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

.





That makes me sad.



I agree...I am very saddened by this. I guess I could never understand how a woman would ever give up the right to making decisions for her own body.
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Kel Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:37 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by PlanningFromATL

Seems like there are a lot of Kerry supporters out there. I have a question - Why did you want Kerry to win? What was your reason for voting for him?



There were so many things I've hear Kerry say over the many months this year .. I started following him while he was still the underdog in the Democratic race.

One of the major things that really got to me in the past couple of months was the idea that we could lose our Mortgage Interest Deduction with Bush as president. As far as I'm concerned Bush can take back his lousy $300 refund he gave us if it would allow me to keep my deduction.

Another feeling of mine, was that Bush has created a giant mess over in Iraq, and I feel he is lying to the American people, and the world, about exactly what is going on over there.

I also find it scary that under Bush, North Korea and Iran are developing their nuclear arsenal.

And the bottom line is .. the attacks of Sep. 11 happened on his presidential watch .. so who the heck is he to be pointing fingers that someone else in office could be more dangerous, and that he has kept us protected?? If he was keeping us protected, Sep. 11 would not have happened.

My impression of Bush, is that he lives in a dream world when he talks about what's going on out there, and the guy just has poor delivery on some major issues. He needs to learn when the time to laugh is, and when the time to be serious is.

Kerry rarely made anything a laughing matter. And I simply agreed much more with him on many major issues. With all the things I didn't agree with Bush on, and all the things I did agree with Kerry on, it was clear to me that I need to vote for a change in office.

I'd like to also add that I found it disgusting that Bush let the ban on assault weapons expire.
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CubanBride Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:39 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by Vicky1706


Posted by Sassyz75


Posted by CubanBride


#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

.





That makes me sad.



I agree...I am very saddened by this. I guess I could never understand how a woman would ever give up the right to making decisions for her own body.



I didn't. I wrote 'as it is now - no', that doesn't mean no - period.

Abortion is not just about a woman's body, that is something to keep in mind.

Here: scroll down on this post and I think you will see what I mean. Post
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KerrC Posted: Nov 03, 2004 02:49 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry

Because he is just a better choice that George Bush.

I was going to list all his great points, but I feel that this has been rehashed so many times, why bother?

I am just deeply saddened by Kerry's election loss.
I feel that George Bush is not a good man to lead this country.

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Re: Why Kerry

I was - and continue to be - much more anti-Bush than pro-Kerry. Two reasons why:

1. I agree with a number of the above posts about abortion, stem-cell research, etc., and the president who serves the 2005-08 term will be able to have an enormous influence on the Supreme Court.

2. I don't trust the current administration, in at least two respects. First, I believe they are dishonest. Second, I find it extremely troubling that they are unable to admit that they make mistakes. The ability to appear resolute was a huge character issue in this election, and to me it was very sad that people valued resolution and decisiveness at any cost (i.e, even if you make a poor decision) over more nuanced, reasoned argument.
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steph4777 Posted: Nov 03, 2004 03:11 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by heidla

I did not agree with Kerry on every issue, but I can't recall ANY issue I supported Bush on. I believe that a President has to be a diplomat and Bush rules with an iron fist. I thought Kerry had the ability to unite and bring more allies to help support in the fight on terror.

2. I don't think that you have to agree with 'Gay Marriage', but I find wanting to add an amendment to the constitution a total injustice. Bush tried it, Kerry was against it.

3. No matter how much people talk about tax cuts I think it is scary. We are piling on debt and recieving a tax break. I know I don't run my household that way because I would have to file bankruptcy.

4. I believe in a woman's right to choice. Bush no, Kerry yes.

5. I believe in embryotic stem cell research. Bush no, Kerry yes.

6. I am a huge believer in seperation of church and state. I feel that that has been lacking in the past 4 yrs. I felt that Kerry, while a religious man, believes in this Constitutional Right. Bush has shown that he does not know how to seperate his faith from his politics.

When I initially decided to vote for Kerry it was a vote for anyone but Bush. Through research and the debates I actually began to like Kerry. I understood him. I did not feel like he would govern with fear. Basically, I trusted him to lead our country in a better direction.




Very well said.

Another reason for me was the Supreme Court issue. Can you image who Bush will appoint or who will bcecome Chief Justice?

What if Roe v Wade is overturned? Abortion my not be a choice for me personally, but I don't think anyone has the right to tell me or any other woman what to do with their body. It's an individual choice not gov't choice.
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bridget&jimmy Posted: Nov 03, 2004 03:20 PM+
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by june262004

I hate Bush I hate they way he speaks I hate what he does I hate the way his religious beliefs get mixed in with the way he runs this country (and I am catholic but church and state should be seperate) I hate how we havent found Osama but are still fighting in Iraq where are those weapons of mass desruction? Health care Stem Cell Research. SO MUCH MORE...



But why do you like Kerry?
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by Kel

[One of the major things that really got to me in the past couple of months was the idea that we could lose our Mortgage Interest Deduction with Bush as president. As far as I'm concerned Bush can take back his lousy $300 refund he gave us if it would allow me to keep my deduction.

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I was and is a Bush supporter so I have no input on 'Why Kerry?'

However, I have seen the above quoted reasoning as an anti Bush statement on this site before. However, Bush never advocated this and he would have been crazy to do so. Also, it contradicts the long established public policy of encouraging home ownership.

From a 9/20/04 Business Week article:

If Bush pushes for bigger savings exemptions, he might try to pay for them by eliminating the interest deductions currently available to corporations. But don't look for him or any other politician to propose eliminating the deduction on home mortgage interest any time soon. It remains politically untouchable.
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by CubanBride


Posted by Vicky1706


Posted by Sassyz75


Posted by CubanBride


#1 -a woman's right to chose - as it is now, no

#2 - embryonic stem cell research - no

.





That makes me sad.



I agree...I am very saddened by this. I guess I could never understand how a woman would ever give up the right to making decisions for her own body.



I didn't. I wrote 'as it is now - no', that doesn't mean no - period.

Abortion is not just about a woman's body, that is something to keep in mind.



I know that there are many other facets of the abortion issue. I just don't think that it should be the governments decision what a woman does with her body, regardless of the other facets. And I feel it is sad to hear a woman so quick to give up her right to make decisions for her body.
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by Vicky1706

[
Abortion is not just about a woman's body, that is something to keep in mind.



I know that there are many other facets of the abortion issue. I just don't think that it should be the governments decision what a woman does with her body, regardless of the other facets. And I feel it is sad to hear a woman so quick to give up her right to make decisions for her body.


Women should be able to control their own bodies, which is why they should have full access to contraceptives, sex ed, etc. But, abortion destroys another body...not the mothers!! Abortion is not the removal of flesh. How come abortion advocates are only concerned about the mother's body? What about the babies' body? This is my major theoretical and logical problem with the pro choice movement. In this society, the womb is one of the unsafest places to be since something like 1 in 6 pregnancies ends in abortion. And then I think of all my friends who can't have children and are waiting and waiting to adopt!!
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Re: Why Kerry


Posted by Bride626

And then I think of all my friends who can't have children and are waiting and waiting to adopt!!



There is no shortage of children needing homes in this country, and around the world for that matter...my MIL adopted 4 kids all as babies - no problem.
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