Anyone else HATE their job??? (Any NYC teachers especially!))

Hi Ladies-

I am a NYC teacher....and I hate my job with a passion. Every week its a new pressure or we have to be on edge because the Superintendent is coming!

Now I am hearing there is a strong possibility of strike!
I need to get a job on LI. I can't take this place much longer!

Let me know if you are in the same boat!

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I hate NYC schools period. not a teacher but a parent and on every freakin committee they have, just so I can stay in the loop oif whats going on. My SIL is a teacher in a NYC school and I have several other family members who teach as well so I am very involved in the schools. I can feel your pain as a parent, believe me

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I'm sorry you aren't happy! I'm a NYC teacher and actually love it. I guess it depends where you are. I know in LI you will make more money, but I would think there is pressure in every district, LI included.

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Thanks....part of the problem is that its run by business men and not by educators!

They wonder why no one wants to be a NYC teacher....let's see LOWER PAY, LOWER PAY with higher expectations, LOWER PAY!

I mean of course its more than the salary!

NYC schools need to be totally overhauled...but that will never happen

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I know there are pressures in every district and in every job for that matter but I don't like the way teachers in NYC are treated. And this is an especially bad year. Also there are so many bad things going on at my school this year...it makes going to work that much worse

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from a parents point of view some of the administrators and staff I have seen take it out on the kids. not as a buse but you can see it

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I understand what you are saying. It's very frustrating, I'm sure. Good luck in your job search, maybe you'll get something in LI for next year.

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Its unfortunate but there is too much pressure on us and then we have to put pressure on the kids.

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i'm a NYC teacher ... i pretty much greatly dislike my job but at least i still love the profession - that's what keeps me going!

and what is this about a strike???

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I love the profession too...but hate NYC.

Well we had a union meeting and our stupid union reps put the idea in our heads that there is a string possiblity of a strike...probably at the beginning of next school year before the election. They told us to start putting away money. So I start freaking out and I got really up. I told my FI about the meeting. My FI is a NYC teacher too and he was pissed that the Union reps are spreading this around and he thinks it is way to premature!

And I am an untenured teacher also....I just hope to God I am on LI next year!

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i'm a city teacher and i totally understand what you are saying. i love my kids but i hate the lack of discipline. i love teaching but i hate with a passion the curiculum and the strictness and lucy calkins and the mayor and his business buddies who hate teachers and will do anything to sneak their distaste and make the job miserable! that is what i hate!!! i love the benefits (days off and health insurance and summers off and a fun job and the ability to make kids lives happy) but i hate the extra meetings and lack of structure that teachers must follow...the curriculum is so vague...basically, they are saying okay, make something...and teachers stand there wondering "make what?" dinner? a garden? rules for a game? crafts? WHAT??? i too am untenured and i don't know what will happen in september. it sucks! but i am living with it now.

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I'm a Long Island teacher - and I think this year is bad all around!!
i'm in a pretty good district, and even we are having issues this year!

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Cocoa...oh God stupid Lucy Calkens and her Workshop model BS! I am so sick of this damn WS model and the bulletin boards and standards!!

My FI is in the same region as I am but a far worse area...he has been attacked 2x this school year by students and what are they worried about??? THE DAMN WORKSHOP MODEL AND BULLETIN BOARDS!!! There is NO discipline where he is!

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I work in a district and we are having major issues as well. Not to say that NYC has it easy.. I am truly empathetic... This year in my district, our contract expired and we are working without one. We also have an asst principal who came from the city and is trying to change our curriculum to fit the Lucy Calkins and balanced literacy mold.. Our day has become so regimented- its so frustrating.

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I'm in the same district (as kdelace) and I'm so sick of not have a contract. It is so frustrating! Don't even get me started on caseloads (sp.ed...same story wherever you go!).

ETA: but I love working with the kids!

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Posted by Sasha96

I'm in the same district (as kdelace) and I'm so sick of not have a contract. It is so frustrating! Don't even get me started on caseloads (sp.ed...same story wherever you go!).

ETA: but I love working with the kids!

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NYC DOE sucks!!!!!!! I hate Lucy Calkins - I hate the reading/writing program!!! I'm sick of the hypocracy of people who say that we need to do what is right for the kids - but then stress you out about nonsense!!!!
Sorry for venting - but that felt good!

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this is what it is like every day!!! but my kids crack me up!!!

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I teach on LI in a great district. But I must say this, each year that I teach gets harder. Their is less money each year, more student needs, more expectations and demands put on teachers and students (who may not be developmentally ready). It is so hard and frustrating...but I love my kids. They keep me going.

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I am listening to the what you are describing about the NYC schools and seriously we have the same issues and I am on LI. The BOE is comprised of business men and parents that know nothing about being teachers. They are telling us how to teach our disciplines and have no idea what it involves. They have changed it to the point where we have a calendar to tell us what we teach on what day. We are being pulled for 5 workshops, this does NOT include the staff developments after school, during the school year outrageous but all we hear is about more rigor more rigor. Then the next breathe-
Why do we have so many kids failing?

It is ridiculous! I love my job but I am getting to the point where I don't come out of my classroom anymore because it is complete aggrasvasion every time I do!

As for the discipline we just had a classrooms ability to take the ELA's compromised because one student talked through out the whole listening part. The deans were called but they didn't do anything, WHY? because they hate this kid and don't want to be bother! He sprayed Windex in another child's face and he is still here! If you look at rate my teacher our dean is rated higher than most of the teachers, there is something wrong with that! Lately it seems every time the dean actually suspends a child the principal will over turn it because the parents complain Nice example!

I don't doubt working in the city is tough, I don't think I could do it but LI is not a piece of cake either. Good luck

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i worked in LI as a perm. sub and then a TA and have now been in NYC (queens) for the past two years ... while they both have pros and cons and pressures from all different directions, what i find in NYC is that there is just no respect for a teachers' expertise. that is truly what i find most frustrating .. it's like i went to school for NO reason, because anything i learned there means NOTHING to the people i work for ... i am an intelligent, well-informed, and insightful professional, and the NYCDOE doesn't let me express this in ANY way (besides when i SNEAK it into my classroom;) ...
at least when i was in LI (in two prominent districts on the north shore) i felt the teachers voices were heard and respected .. that's what i hope for someday when i say i want a job in LI .. just some simple respect!! (and a slight pay raise )

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I am soooo glad that there are other people who feel that same as me!!!!

From what I have heard this is a BAD year for teachers all over...NYC and LI.

I used to be a TA in a very nice district on the North Shore and they have no contract this year and are so unhappy!

Teachers can't just teach anymore there is so much BS that goes along with it!!!

And now with all the S*%t hitting the fan with the Central Adminstration all over LI ie..Roslyn, Hempstead..its insane

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Okay - so I know the grass is almost always greener... - but for those of you who either teach on LI, or have taught in NYC then moved to LI to teach - do you really think it's just as frustrating in both places?

I started teaching last year (NYC Teaching Fellow) and I can't decide if I just don't like the profession, or if I just don't like the nonsense that comes with it. I don't like what I'm teaching - the curriculum sucks. I don't like the discplinary aspect, for the same reason someone described above - the students don't seem to be punished for their actions anymore. I don't like the unnecessary stresses for nonsense, like bulletin boards, and workshops and other stupid stuff. I don't like the community because the parents have no interest in their child's education.

So I keep thinking that if I get a job on LI (like everyone else and their mothers want!!!) that I might like it better. Am I completely wrong?? Should I just go back to the business world where I was actually compensated for my stress, where I didn't HAVE to bring work home, and where I could sit on my computer and chat on LI WEDDINGS during the day too?!?!?!?

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Posted by beautyq115

And now with all the S*%t hitting the fan with the Central Adminstration all over LI ie..Roslyn, Hempstead..its insane

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Re: Anyone else HATE their job??? (Any NYC teachers especially!))

today was sucky!!! our superindenant-ish person is coming this week and boy oh boy, do we feel it!!! i swear, everyone comes into our rooms telling us EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG!!! is there anything right?