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WithThisRing Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:32 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

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Lisa Rose Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:32 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

I think that would be carrying 'freedom of religion' a little far.

Honestly...how can this woman actually expect the DMV to issue her a licence with a picture that you cant see her face, hair color or eye color. For all they would know it could be a man underneath it!!
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ChristineC68 Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:32 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

That was the basis of her argument. I don't remember the outcome though.
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Jenn P Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:48 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

I believe she was denied the right to wear it and now she's suing, so there may not be an outcome for some time.
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yabbobay Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:50 PM+
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Posted by alina

Is this covered under the 'freedom of religion'?




My guess is that they are going to say that driving isn't a privledge...so they can deny someone from a license for whatever reasons...


but who knows what will happen with the right lawyers...
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joeslauren Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:50 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

there should be prerequisites for suing. too many pointless cases taking too much time...
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jennbaby Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:51 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

She's suing?

I am sorry but I do not agree with that
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jennbaby Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:52 PM+
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Posted by joeslauren

there should be prerequisites for suing. too many pointless cases taking too much time...



another well said point!
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Jordan Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:54 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

Wal-Mart is a whole other topic, IMO. I absolutely DETEST that store and their monopolizing practices.
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StayandJohn Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:54 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

Alina, a license is a form of ID. Her face must show. Same as for a passport
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wacky Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:56 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

If Im not mistaken I think she won. Thats ok, Im sorry but there is going to come a time where some things will bite people in the ass.

I believe in religion, but sometimes you just have to give.

You know when I worked in the 5 towns which is a predominantly Jewish area, an very religious orthodox jewish man came in and refused to let me touch him.. So I left the room, he said it was against his religion to come in contact with a 'gentile woman'

My boss also Jewish but reformed, told him to leave. The man said no, it was his right. My boss said not in this office. He told him to call local offices annd check to see if they had an all orhtodox jewish staff.

I always thought that was little weird..
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alina Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:57 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

But doesn't the veil thing impair the physical ability to see well. Particularly on the sides of the eyes?
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wacky Posted: Oct 23, 2003 03:59 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

Are you sure she lost? I could of swore she won.
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alina Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:00 PM+
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Posted by StayandJohn

Alina, a license is a form of ID. Her face must show. Same as for a passport



I understand, but I wonder if there is an exception for this? I don't know, just asking.
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WithThisRing Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:01 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

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alina Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:02 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country


Posted by wacky

If Im not mistaken I think she won. Thats ok, Im sorry but there is going to come a time where some things will bite people in the ass.

I believe in religion, but sometimes you just have to give.

You know when I worked in the 5 towns which is a predominantly Jewish area, an very religious orthodox jewish man came in and refused to let me touch him.. So I left the room, he said it was against his religion to come in contact with a 'gentile woman'

My boss also Jewish but reformed, told him to leave. The man said no, it was his right. My boss said not in this office. He told him to call local offices annd check to see if they had an all orhtodox jewish staff.

I always thought that was little weird..



Wacky, why did you have to touch him?

I had the same encounter with my job, a male borrower wouldn't shake my hand, b/c I am a woman and its against the orthodox branch of judaism.
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yabbobay Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:02 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country


Posted by WithThisRing

Their are 24 apartments in my building. Of the 24 apartments we have hispanic, Polish, and many from Gyana and India. Their are only 3 apartments that are not of that ethnic background.

NONE of them speak english.




just wanted to comment...Dh's family came from Spain...they ALL speak very good English with accents (albeit), but they often go into Spanish...they are all US citizens as well and do not collect welfare or other services...


on another note when my dad started dating my mom...my moms whole family spoke German (yet they all became US citizens and spoke very good English)

my grandfather would have to yell at all the old ladies to speak English so my father could understand...its just that they were comfortable with German...


so just b/c someone doesn't speak English in their home, doesn't mean that they 1) aren't citizens 2)do not know English 3) are collecting welfare or 4) have contagious diseases...
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WithThisRing Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:03 PM+
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StayandJohn Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:03 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

Oh my God Wacky...funny you should mention the orthodox, DH was doing a closing today and the buyer was an orthodox Jew, he REFUSED to have a woman present during the closing (and she was from the bank)
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wacky Posted: Oct 23, 2003 04:03 PM+
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Re: Im sorry but now Im venting-Be Mad I dont Care But the USA needs to make some restrictions on foreigners coming to this country

Exception for what. Im sorry Alina, there is always an exception, bu thats ridiculous. How is anyone to really know who she is. What if she a murderer, or is the victim of a crime, or anything. If I have then you have to.

You know, personally I think that its coming to a point that one can kill and get away with it because of religion and that scares me.
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